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Did some checking on seed generation by dice on Coldcard vs. Ian Colemans Mnemonic Code Converter and have some questions. Coldcard might reduce your security by missleading guidance!

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So Coinkite guidance displayed on the display is: "... each roll adds only 2.585 of entropy. For 128-bit security, which is considered the minimum, you need 50 rolls, and for 256-bits of security, 99 rolls."

They let you press the buttons 1-6 (and only those) for each roll. So you can only use a D6. If you did it 50 times, you think you did the minimum to have 128-Bit security.

Here are my questions:

  • The 2.585 entropy per roll are based on entropy values 0-9 (base 10), right?
  • If I limit the entropy values to 1-6 (D6 dice) I introduce a massive bias, right?
  • Is it fair to assume that the resulting entropy is just 1.67 per roll?
  • Is my ColdCard dice genrated seed realy secured by the minimum 128 bit, or more like with just 84 bits?

Look, I'm no expert, indeed hope I'm wrong.

UPDATE: I was wrong - see below.

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